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For the new millenia, 'cool' has become synonymous with 'uncool' and out of that apathy has synthesized.

IT'S NOT LOVE IF YOU'RE NOT TRYING

Alamir

2009-01-19 00:07:12

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Response to: In Defense of Apathy by Hogan
The idea of love is no longer something to strive for with someone else. Instead, people who get in relationships barely call it a relationship at all. There are no more dates, "asking someone out," or any of those formalities for at least the first few months of a relationship. The reason being that discussing a relationship too early may be seen as too intense for the other partner. People only acknowledge they're in a relationship after they're both forced to admit that hanging around someone for three months straight isn't normal either. This phenomena was always around but now it has grown to the point where I can't think of many friends who don't see an alternative to this line of thinking.

And perhaps this has its benefits. A sociologist, Dr Malcolm Brynin, from the Institute for Social and Economic Research at the University of Essex, says that "It seems that the secret to long-term happiness in a relationship is to skip a first relationship." In his book Changing Relationships he reasons that people should not put too much emphasis on their first relationship because it might ruin all the relationships afterwards. He argues that if someone seeks love for the first time and finds it, then when they move on to someone else they may still be hung up on that first love because of the initial feeling they felt with that person.

My question is: So what? Is it actually better to not look for love at all? Yes, sure it's easier but that doesn't make it better; Unless you expect a loving relationship to fall upon your lap by chance. Like every endeavor in life, a little pain (or a lot if you're a romantic sap) is expected.

How are we supposed to skip that initial feeling of love anyway? Well, it seems the lovers of today are doing it through apathy. In our generation, apathy in everything from politics to ethics is considered the safest ideology to follow. And now it has manifested itself in our idea of love. Both guys and girls would rather "hang out," while making out, before discussing a relationship. In fact to do otherwise could ruin the potential of the relationship by having someone "move too fast."

I've personally been accused once of "moving too fast" when I had suggested to an old fling that I liked spending time around her exclusively. The anecdotal evidence doesn't end there. A few girls I knew wanted to give up their virginity to people they didn't care about so that it wouldn't break their heart when the guy left them. Again, easier is not better. My guy friend, Giles, told me the other day that he was tired of relationships and my girl friend Sorrel admitted she's content now with just a good-looking guy because she may move to Korea some day. I must admit, all these people I've mentioned seem to have an easier time with life than my old traditional ways.

For the new millenia, "cool" has become synonymous with "uncool" and out of that apathy has synthesized. So we can no longer impress a mate with our coolness if that risks also annoying him/her with our uncoolness. The only answer is to accept the paradox and give up. All the studies on love can go to waste because so far the best answer is to just let it happen. Except for one thing, as Robert Frank, an economist from Cornell University, once mentioned that people would probably leave their mates more often if they actually didn't care. Because if they didn't, then the very first time a more attractive person crossed by they would have no reason to stay and would leave the relationship. Obviously, there is some bond.

The only thing people need to realize is that those chemical hormones in our brain creating those bonds only last for less than a year (As explained here). After that, lovers need something with more substance to stay in a relationship. Like perhaps an exciting yet formal date?
Hogan

Hogan

2009-01-20 15:22:21

In Andrew Potter and Joseph Heath's The Rebel Sell (a book I refuse to stop telling everybody in my generation to read) they talk a bit about something very similar: the loss of formal dating structures and the resulting awkwardness, due to the fact that neither "partner" (or whatever the non-structured name would be) knows where they each stand with each other. The "cool" factor you mentioned also plays a big part in the book. Since the rise of 1960s counter-culture, what's "cool" has had to be re-invented at an rapid rate. Along with any standard, steady style of "cool", formal relationship and dating structures also got tossed aside, thanks mostly to the counter-culture wings of sexual revolution and of feminism (at least as far as traditional dating formalities went). And so, Heath and Potter say, without these standard dating procedures ("asking out", "going steady", whatever they are/were) - which were actually meant to protect women, not oppress them, by the way - guys and girls don't know what the hell is going on! Speaking from their own personal experience of the 1970s, they said it was hell. Nobody wanted to seem lame, and so nobody talked to each other about what their relationship status was, at least at the early stages, I guess. It was all, ostensibly, about being free and getting laid ("it's all about love, maaan"(there's no button to click for hippie drawl, so you'll have to imagine it).

What people didn't realize, Heath and Potter argue, is that WE NEED THOSE RULES. (The book is mostly about the need for rules and regulations, personally, politically, economically, etc.). And so, the result of all that hippie freedom was actually a backlash, a desperate reversion to (stereotypically speaking) 1950s formalities, exemplified by the modern industry of dating advice books and the like, which re-formalize the language around dating and relationships, or more bluntly, resurrected a language of dating where it had been killed almost completely, re-reinforcing what the counter-culture tried to eradicate because it was "uncool".

As for that second last paragraph which concludes with "the very first time a more attractive person crossed by they would have no reason to stay and would leave the relationship. Obviously, there is some bond."...this may be true, and probably often is. But just as often, I think, people stay in relationships (despite an abundance of more attractive people) because they're lazy, and getting out is too much of a hassle for them. No bond necessary, just inertia.

Alamir

Alamir

2009-01-21 00:26:10

Very interesting input that I find myself compelled to agree with; We do need rules. Perhaps, not "those" rules though. What I mean is that perhaps the rules became too rigid, too formal, and almost as a result: meaningless. There's a book called the "The Game" about how to be a pick-up artist with women. Basically the author demonstrates how picking up girls can be narrowed down to almost a science by obeying certain rules. I think this is what could have happened in the 50s for the initial backlash of the 70s (I unfortunately have no backup of this, and this is in part my own speculation). But I'd imagine that "free love" was seen as "real love" because it did not set itself to a game-plan. I'm sure, just as how people complain now, the world of "love" became too systematic at one point. For example, marriage at 20 was perfect, 4 years later and you're too old. Kissing on the first date was frowned upon heavily. A man had two years to propose. ...and the result of such rules? The love fades into pressured social norms being met. So although, yes, one did know what was going on and what the status of the relationship was, and both the female and male were "protected," the status was not a result of one truly felt but what society judged you should be feeling. So, in essence, one could still feel lost in a relationship despite knowing their status. Like being trained to be marine without ever being in an actual war.

Lastly, when I wrote this article my argument was that people in a relationship did what was easiest by avoiding bringing up the question of a status. And that it was also easier, though not necessarily right, to just not actively look for love. But isn't following a manual just as easy? Isn't following society's rules the path of least resistance?

Sorrel

Sorrel

2009-01-28 13:38:57

You know, this is a very insightful piece. I think there is a lot of merit in the idea that our generation is overly apathetic... and I would mull over it and put in my two cents, but I'm hung up on the fact that you used my relationship as an example of a relationship that doesn't work. I'm a bit insulted. Why rush into something, fall head over heals in love with someone and have a rollercoaster ride of a relationship. Sure there is always the good and the bad, but why throw irrational mood swings into the mix. Taking a pragmatic approach doesn't mean I love him any less, and I'm very superficial, I love that he is a really good looking guy, I'm not just settling like you say. Alamir, I don't think that failing to define the terms of a relationship is a copout; every individual has their own comfort level when it comes to sitting down and hashing things out. Not everybody is a talker, and things still go on smoothly if you make sure you're happy along the way. Frankly, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Alamir

Alamir

2009-01-28 16:05:36

"I don't think that failing to define the terms of a relationship is a copout; every individual has their own comfort level when it comes to sitting down and hashing things out."

Would you agree that no-perimeters allows for cop-outs to occur? There's plenty of friends I know of who've had relationships end because one party expected an implicit perimeter which the other party did not adhere to.

Sorrel

Sorrel

2009-01-29 22:34:06

ASSUMING makes an ass out of you and me.
I think I'll keep responding with clichés... it's ironically effective.

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